email received re ebay fraud
NOTE : The views expressed on this page are those of the author and not ours and are published as a way of bringing this problem to public attention . 22 July , 2003
Heres a letter I wrote responding to ebay and some facts from the criminal trial still going on from a seller in Chicago who burned hundreds of ebayers, I am still dealing with the case trying to get justice and restitution for anyone involved,
I appreciate your allowing me to take your statistical survey about the ebay company auction site.
HOWEVER.....
What I would really like to see in an ebay survey is the true facts and statistics come out about how many people have been swindled and defrauded over the few years that the ebay auction ccorporationnbsp;has been operating and when is ebay going to take any type of responsibility for helping enforce public rules,safety ,laws, common sense and all logical regulations followed by the trade society.
I for one know the numbers to be in the tens of thousands of victims in individual auction deals where some one bid and got burned, [locally,nationally or internationally] and this does not include those who just gave up because the loss of money was not worth the complaint process and /or time involved to get justice for the fraud that was perpetrated,
There are most likely millions, of angry cheated buyers in good faith trying to interact through the ebay auction site on the Internet with little means of legally doing anything about it once cheated by sellers because of ebays policy to suppress what I consider public information on factual crimes being committed against any/all consumers.
Anyone can attempt to sell anything on eBay no matter what the site's regulations say. Unless bidders notify eBay authorities in time, these sales can end on their own automatically and no one will ever know. If a seller/violator gets caught, punishments are slight,nothing more severe than being permanently banned from the site. In a world where changing your identity or credit card or getting a friend or relative to take over for you is an easy possibility,this is a nobrainierr for any criminals worldwide!
Ebay employees explain constantly about being unable to make strict serious enforcement policies toward protecting consumers at all except ending auctions and suspending blatantly obvious criminal behavior of sellers,when after all they are really a "venue" with little or no responsibility toward any consumer protections or enforcement of facts,except to make money from services rendered with out fault or blame for allowing almost anything to be posted for sale on ebay's auction website 24/7 with very little verification of fact.
As the warning posted on ebay pages says says; "buyer beware"!
Along with the amount of pirated and bootleg items being sold daily on ebay without any fear of legal repercussion or criminal and civilprosecutionn ,unless hours of voluntary time are spent by bidders/consumers trying to bring these matters to the attention of ebay staff who send repetitivee emails directing you to copyrights owners in a Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program set up to take any blame away from ebay or its employees having any knowledge about factually identifying anything and ebay is usually loathe to end an auction with out irrefutable proof and testimony ,lest a nickle of profit be deleted out of the ebay cash machine over any unproven auction practice(s).
I doubt ebay will ever have mandatory serious protection policies for bidders who buy 10 or more items at a time,be it an hour,a day ,a week,or a month and are swindled or lose money through the misrepresentation of items and fraud by people only looking to defraud the public for self gain.[ and there are thousands out there everyday scheming to do so on ebay.com.]
How long the federal government can allow this practice to go on and on with in its federal borders and jurisdiction, as well as on the Internet in the public view is a travesty of justice, the fair trade act,freedom of speech rights and all consumer laws around the world and a terrible reflection on Americans as a free and fair trade society.
All because some lawyers got together to protect an '' internet auction company''established in the united states of america, who incorporated with the word "VENUE" making it impervious to liability for transgressions done toi nnocently interacting / participating consumers, on ebays web site.
I might as well be gambling inLas Vegas for the protection offered me! The ebay house always wins and does little when I lose!
Ebay self protection policies while humoring cheated consumers from doing little if anything in a timely manner or any legal recourse in these matters with the exception of being able to claim a few item losses a year through minor insurance coverage claims ebay conviently supplis to cover any legal liability.
[laughable at best ]
When I
waspersonallyy being defrauded for over $2300.00 on one sellers video
auctions[thebarry
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17429
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I had dealt with the seller several times before and had trusted that ebay's safety controls and rules and safety controls were enough to protect me .
Being the seller had over 17,000 positive feedbacks [he went private shortly after I sent my money and ebay never warned any buyer of this sellers auctions through email of other wise that something was going down and that negative feedback was pouring in at an alarming rate or I could have canceled my payments immediately.
['' thebarry
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17429
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Not a registered user''] ,
I bid on hundreds of individual auctions, done over a month or more, in good faith only to find that I could only claim the highest 3 items in a six month period and then not claim any more items for a one year period.not a good deal when you have bid for over 550 items in such a short period.
Rather than acknowledge the almost totally self protecting policies of ebay corporation against more than a slight liability issue toward protecting all consumers on their part,
I took the entire loss feeling rather used by an auction web site that I thought a innocently promoted fun "venue" to participate on!
The other issues were the overcharging postage or postal skimming as it is called which many ebay sellers think is perfectly justified and can vary from 50 cents to $10.00 in extra charges because they wish to sell items and get paid to pack and ship them as well without giving fixed shipping prices till after auctions end and you have agreed to purchase an item too late realizing your overpaying by many extra dollars in shipping!
I find that if this type of behavior continues, we as a society will destroy showing future generations what fair trade is all about and relive the same deceptive scandalous lessons of the past with each new cheated generation of consumers.
I believed enough protections were in place for all consumers unfortunately as Law Enforcement Officials have painted me a totally different and shocking picture of the realities and priorities of what kind of Internet crimes in per portion to the quantity and seriousness that they will immediately act on ,once reported ,within there law enforcement budgets and manpower allowed them.
I sadly end this letter no further along ,feeling safer than when I started and more paranoid about my fellow man at the other end of the keyboard.
I am hoping encourage those of you who realize something must be done and wish to change this corrupt almost one sided system of not so free trade where a few corporations profit at the expense of many innocent consumers who really have no consumer voice or protection without proper representation and organization.
Ebay buries all possible crime transaction records,reports and statistical information on individuals [unless the individuals like us spread the word ourselves after being burned.] from any/all public eyes with the exception of law enforcement and only when you the victim have finally reported to them,usually to little to late by the time its reported and looked into most smart criminals are long gone.
Which means you and I could only obtain the individual facts of each individual crime(s) and transaction(s) with a Lawyer and a subpoena(s) of each and every record(s) and then only if I were involved in those auction(s) in some way.this is a new way to make money and look respectable by using right to privacy laws to keep information from the people who need to know to make a reasonable consumer decision to feel safe to interact on either ebay,com or the Internet.
So much for the public trust. [in private hands.]
Lets see John Ashcroft handle this one!
Hoping justice for all will prevail,
Richard Silva,
attorney ; Paul Fegen , 310-286-1111
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sirs,
we the victims of this
matter have heard little coverage about these internet criminals
prowling ebays website cheating hundreds and thousands of
unsuspecting and novice users daily.
Our justice system and very
way of life are threatened with economic ruin and collapse if
something is not done by government to enact laws to protect
and enforce the saftey of all people, weither they reside in the
principle constitutional boundries of the united states or
elsewhere in the world.
please give these facts
your consideration.
UNITED STATES
COURT,CHICAGO,ILLINOIS
# 03 CR500-1 USA vs. Barry
Reiger 2002-2003
WEDNESDAY JULY 23 2003 9;30 AM DEPT CR500 CHICAGO.ILLINOIS,USA
(next appearance for trial
hearing)
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